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User: argument_clinic (posted by evilgrins)
Date: March 11th, 2008
Subject: there are many reasons I think Batman would beat Superman...
Security: Public
Mood:determineddetermined
Tags:batman vs superman
...but let's go with the basics.



1) Superman can't aim for spit at close range.
2) Superman tends to barrel into situations without much foresight.
3) Superman ain't the goddamn Batman!
4) Superman actually gave Batman a kryptonite ring.
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My name is Freezer and my anti-drug is porn: Krypto go BONK!
User: freezer
Date: March 11th, 2008 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:Krypto go BONK!
<srs_bzns>
The problem with most Batman can beat _____ scenarios is that they depend largely on two things.

1) Bats having intel and time to plan
2) Bats ambushing a much stronger opponent.

Both of which go out the window if Supes knows Bats is coming. Doubly so if Superman goes on the attack.

And for those of you of a mind to use Dark Knight Returns as a counter, Bats himeslf says Superman isn't at full-speed and still needs an assload of firepower to soften him up first.
</srs_bzns>
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Doppleganger: unknown variable
User: evilgrins
Date: March 11th, 2008 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:unknown variable
not so much.

Bats has faced in his full prime and still thrown him down. He was planning how to take him down shortly after they first met, as he does with everyone he meets so he's had plenty of time to prep.
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My name is Freezer and my anti-drug is porn: OBJECTION!
User: freezer
Date: March 11th, 2008 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:OBJECTION!
I would think the "prep time" thing still relies too heavily on surprise and ambush, given the vast power difference between them.

And even that ignores the very real (though writer-dependent) possibility that Supes would simply be too strong for any of Bats plans to work (short of the Kryptonite trump card).
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Doppleganger: Batman identity crisis
User: evilgrins
Date: March 11th, 2008 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:Batman identity crisis
Supes has a number of vulnerabilities that Bats can exploit. Kryptonite, sonic assault, magic, exposure to red sun radiation, etc.

If it were just the kryptonite that'd be something else again.
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KitWench
User: kitwench
Date: March 11th, 2008 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
And the real reason - although Supes could kill the Batboy from a distance, easily (or any human, for that matter) ... he wouldn't.
He's too goody goody.
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Doppleganger: Kal-El
User: evilgrins
Date: March 11th, 2008 (UTC)
Subject: (no subject)
Keyword:Kal-El
Bingo!
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